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Hardware • Re: [Discussion] OS turns off but computer keeps going

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April • 1 minute

Hello,

when I turn off the laptop debian (bookworm), the turn of logs show up, the screen goes black, but I can hear the fan keeps going. After 30 seconds, the laptop heats up and fan goes craze, until I do a hard reset.

This is probably related to ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) not completing the shutdown because a device is not responding as expected.

Is there a way to check, what is causing this? (Turn off logs or something?)

You can boot the kernel with the debug parameter to make it more verbose during normal operations and the shutdown.

following specs:

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System:  Kernel: 6.9.7+bpo-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0  Desktop: Cinnamon v: 5.6.8 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)Machine:  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: TravelMate P215-52 v: V1.23    serial: <superuser required>  Mobo: CML model: BassDrum_CM v: V1.23 serial: <superuser required>    UEFI: INSYDE v: 1.23 date: 09/15/2020

You are using an outdated bookworm-backports kernel. I assume you are not using the kernel from Debian Bookworm for some hardware compatibility issue. So, you might consider installing a newer kernel from the bookworm-backports repository; the current version available is 6.12.12-1~bpo12+1:

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$ rmadison linux-image-amd64linux-image-amd64 | 4.19+105+deb10u16  | oldoldstable       | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 5.10.127-2~bpo10+1 | buster-backports   | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 5.10.223-1         | oldstable          | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.1.90-1~bpo11+1   | bullseye-backports | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.1.129-1          | stable             | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.12.12-1~bpo12+1  | stable-backports   | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.12.21-1          | testing            | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.12.21-1          | unstable           | amd64linux-image-amd64 | 6.13.9-1~exp1      | experimental       | amd64

If a kernel module (driver) does not shut down properly, it may also have problems at runtime. In this case, you may find warning or error messages in the system logs (systemd's journal). So you might want to analyse/share your system logs looking for clues.

So, the suspend to RAM and incomplete shutdown problems might be related.

Hope this helps.

Statistics: Posted by Aki — 2025-04-06 15:14

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Graphical Environments & Desktops • Re: Debian 12 Xfce - new installation - thunar file manager preferences not usable

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

I had that problem too on a Dell laptop with a 1366x768 resolution.I thought it was due to that resolution but your machines graphics are identical. Absolutely annoying during setup but it somehow fixed itself later. I don't remember whether I did something. And yes, never saw that with bullseye.

The window size settings are in that database you can edit with dconf. They can be preseeded - I think in /etc/skel? Maybe the Debian12 settings have no seed and as a consequence get set at random?

Lots of the features can be adjusted at the ~/.config/xfce4/

This would be after the fact. He is asking why the installation turns out differently and that's something I'm interested in too.

@kalle123Is it just the Thunar settings window or also other windows?

Statistics: Posted by ilu — 2025-04-06 14:39

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Graphical Environments & Desktops • Re: Debian 12 Xfce - new installation - thunar file manager preferences not usable

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

I had quite a long time the same problem. Got advised of Alt-F7 combination.

Lots of the features can be adjusted at the ~/.config/xfce4/

Statistics: Posted by arzgi — 2025-04-06 14:34

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Graphical Environments & Desktops • Re: Debian 12 Xfce - new installation - thunar file manager preferences not usable

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

Hi cfb.

Yes, there are ways to over come that 'feature'.

But what puzzles me is the different sizing of those preference windows in Debian 12 installations.

Statistics: Posted by kalle123 — 2025-04-06 14:27

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Hardware • Re: [Discussion] OS turns off but computer keeps going

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

Similar issues here with desktop computer.

No idea what caused that, but the computer suddenly did no longer turn off when hibernating (via systemctl hibernate).
When resuming, the computer ignores the hibernate partition. Instead systemd runs fsck and crashes, sometimes multiple times in a row. So, resume from hibernate no longer works, and on the login console you get a moment later the message that systemctl/journald has crashed again.
Would be great to find out what is wrong...

Statistics: Posted by Meow — 2025-04-06 14:19

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Forum information, requests, and feedback. • Re: [Feedback] Das Prune: Should we purge threads and users in those threads from 2004 - 2010?

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

Everything older than Jessie can go. That was the beginning of the Wayland era. 2015 I think? There are still servers around running Jessie on newer kernels.

TC

Statistics: Posted by trinidad — 2025-04-06 13:15

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Hardware • Re: [Discussion] OS turns off but computer keeps going

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

It can be set in the /etc/fstab, how often partitions are checked. That's the first that comes to my mind.

Statistics: Posted by arzgi — 2025-04-06 13:01

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Hardware • Re: /dev/disk/by-id/ does not show the real WWN

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

Unfortunately this is not a complete drive failure.
It is just that a few hundred sectors seem to be bad, which ZFS detects and yanks out the drive from the pool.
The drive remains functional, though... can be handled by dd etc, which all fail when reaching bad sectors....
So there is no red light indicator flashing

Regarding cable connection:
I think there was some cable with one connector on the host adapter side and multiple connectors on the backplane side, one for each drive slot. And also there were sideband cables IIRC. I should open the computer and take some photos... but can't do this until evening/night.

Edit: Now I tried to use dd again, in the hope to identify the drive by activity light, but now the drive does no longer work. The drive completely disappeared now from fdisk -l after that failed dd attempt. Unfortunately, still no red LED flashing

Statistics: Posted by Meow — 2025-04-06 12:01

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Hardware • Re: /dev/disk/by-id/ does not show the real WWN

news.woodpeckersnest.space / forums-debian-net:0 • 6 April

Hello,

It is connected to the drives via a SAS-743TQ backplane. The host adapter is configured for HBA (pass through) mode.

According to the documentation, there should be a LED on the backplane that lights up for each SAS drive connected in the event of a disk failure, right?

What is the cable used to connect the Adaptec ASR-71605 SCSI RAID PCI card with the backplane ?

Statistics: Posted by Aki — 2025-04-06 10:55